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Iron(111)thiocyanate

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Help

I need help to make the following chemicals. I cannot locate any recipes in any of my books

1) Fe(NO3) .....0.0020m

2)KSCN .........0.0020m

3)Fe(SCN)3 .......0.0002m

thanking you all in advance
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Ferric nitrate may be available in nonahydrate or anydrous form. Check on the lable.

* Fe(NO3)3.9H2O is 403.999 g/mol so 0.0020M will be 0.0808 g/100mL
* Fe(NO3)3 is 241.86 g/mol so 0.0020M will be 0.0484 g/100mL

Potassium Thiocyanate

* KSCN is 97.181 g/mol so 0.0020M will be 0.0194 g/100mL

Ferric Thiocyanate complex forms in the colourimetric determination reaction. You don't make your own.

* Fe(NO3)3 + 3 KSCN = Fe(SCN)3 + 3 KNO3

Suggestion: For the calibration plot, 0.10 mL increments of 0.00100 M KSCN are added to 4.00 mL of 0.200 M Fe(NO3)3, and for the equilibrium solutions, 0.50 mL increments of 0.00200 M KSCN are added to 4.00 mL of 0.00200 M Fe(NO3)3.
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Hi
I use a website called Mass Molarity Calculator Sigma-Aldrich for when I have hard solutions to make. https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/chemistry/ ... lator.html
I just click on one of the links to work things out.
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From the recipe section of Pearson Chem 12 to prepare 0.0002M iron(III) thiocyanate

pipette 10ml 0.002M KSCN into a 100ml volumetric flask
make up to 100ml with 0.002M Fe(NO3)3
make fresh as solution degrades
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This new year 12 Chemistry pracs are doing my head in, great to have a challenge, from chemicals kids aren't to use and shouldn't be using, to mind reading some of it.

NOW asking for 5 x 10-4molL-1 iron (III) thiocyanate = 0.0005m is that right? hate looking like an idiot! Practical investigation of an equilibrium system

Did every ones students have success with Determination of Keq by colorimetry

only a little rant.
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Just finished this prac for this year. I know the iron thiocyanate has to be made fresh, but can the 0.002M KSCN and the 0.002M Fe(NO3)3 be kept until next year? ie: what is the shelf life for these solutions?

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We just used the ones I mixed last year with great success
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My chem teacher got me to keep the solution from last year which he was happy to use this year. As far as I know, it all worked fine.
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Hi Kathryn,

Official shelf life doesn't always indicate loss of reactivity. I'm still using the same solutions three or four years later with good results.

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Hi Marama,

I prepared these solutions just yesterday just wondering did your chem teacher use a spectrometer to get the absorbance of the solutions and if yes,what type of results did you get?I think our Keq is a little out

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Hi Happy Labby,

No, sorry, I can't help you with that. We didn't use a spectrometer.

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Re: Iron(111)thiocyanate

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Hi Everyone,
Did anyone use a spectrometer to get the absorbance of the solutions? and if yes could they share the results with me

Many thanks
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iron (iii) thiocyanate ion solution

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can anyone tell me how to make this
iron (iii) thiocyanate ion solution

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I have merged them for you Kimmy
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iron (lll) thiocyanate

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Hi All
Need help PLEASE
making iron (lll) thiocyanate
I have no idea
THANK YOU
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Hi Judy.
Search iron thiocyanate in the search box above and you'll see previous discussions on this.
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Hope this helps Judy2018
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So am I right in understanding the students make the iron thiocyanate standard solution themselves as part of the prac? Or do I make it up for them right before the prac starts?
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I had the students make up their own iron thiocyanate in mini test tubes by adding iron nitrate and potassium thiocyanate together. I supplied them with 0.1M Iron nitrate solution and 0.002M KSCN solution. Worked well!
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