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Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 10:36
by Ocean Breeze
Anyone help identify this bone?
We are all stabbing in the dark
Was found at the highwater line on a beach on the east Coast.
Its about 16 cms across
The first two pics are the whole thing, the third pic is a close up of what looks like fontenels, running the whole centre of the bone, and allows for the bone to have a bit of bend and 'give' in it, like an elastic spring.
The last pic is a close up of the pointy end bits
Thanks sleuths
mystery bone 001resized.jpg
mystery bone 002 resized.jpg
mystery bone 003.jpg
mystery bone 004.jpg
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 11:36
by Narelle01
i've sent the photos to a scientist friend of mine, see what he comes up with!!!
I am intrigued now!
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 11:39
by CC
When you guys find out please post it because I'm intrigued too.
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 11:45
by mazza
The Australian Museum in Sydney should be able to help,
if you contact them by phone then email photos.
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 11:47
by Narelle01
My friend said it looks like it could be from a sting ray - but his advice was to email the australian museum if it is vital!
So would you like me to do that??
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 11:51
by Ocean Breeze
That would be great Narelle..
however its not at all essential. Someone found it and brought it into us
But everyone here is dying of curiosity
Maybe an unidentified species!
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 12:22
by Narelle01
Ok, sent to AM to see what they think. Could only upload 1 photo, have said i have 3 more if they provide me with an email address.
here's hoping!
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 12:25
by Ocean Breeze
excellent narelle.. thanks
Now we are all agog.
We should run a competition
.
R-S
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 12:30
by RosalieM
I just googled stingray bones and it turns out they only have cartilage...
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 12:51
by Debbie
I think you will find it is part of the lower bony plate of a turtle.
Structure of the skeleton.doc
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 12:54
by Ocean Breeze
Debbie
You might have to take out the prize , who knows?
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 13:50
by RosalieM
After googling turtle bone images I think you are right on the money too, Debbie. Kicking myself because that was my first thought but I didn't follow it up! Ah well... such is life! I'm still interested to hear back from the Australian Museum via Narelle
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 14:12
by Labbie
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 15:26
by lizzieb
Fascinating!
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 08:51
by Narelle01
The AM provides a great quick service, and their reply was...........(we need a drumroll smiley )
Dear Narelle,
Thank you for your enquiry. Your bones are the rather weathered sections of the lower part of a sea-turtle shell. The shell plates have worn right down to the bony layer that provides structure underneath. These bony sections are called the hypoplastron. Here is a link to one such piece:-
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=sea+turt ... 29,r:0,s:0
Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance.
Kind regards,
Martyn Robinson
Naturalist
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 09:56
by lizzieb
Thankyou Rainbow-sky, thankyou Narelle, and CONGRATULATIONS Debbie, clever you
Chemtalk continually enriches my working life
- gotta love it!
Re: Please help identify this bone
Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 10:29
by Ocean Breeze
Thank You Narelle
Could you please thank the wonderfully helpful people at the museum for us?
I have to say that networking is a brilliant tool. We can find out anything , contact anyone on the face of the earth (and beyond!
) using our networks.
(remember only 6 degrees removed from any person on Earth..actually, I have never had to go beyone 3 or 4 Deg!)
Once again, thank you to ALL who participated in this thread of amazing discovery
RS