Hydrogen Peroxide

MSDSs, Storage, Handling, Transport, Labeling, computer management systems, and anything else to do with safety.
Post Reply
User avatar
Krysia Lee
Posts: 228
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 10:40
Job Title: Labbie
School: Brigidine College
Suburb: St Ives
State/Location: NSW

Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Krysia Lee »

HI
I'm about to do the elephants toothpaste prac, has anyone done this heating the perioxide in the microwave first so to compare it with cold perioxide. If you have how long did you heat it for and how much. Please and thank you
RosalieM
Posts: 1795
Joined: 20 Mar 2007, 10:00
Job Title: Lab Assistant
Suburb: Tamworth
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by RosalieM »

I just sat it in hot water. I don't think I'd be brave enough to put it in the microwave.
User avatar
Krysia Lee
Posts: 228
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 10:40
Job Title: Labbie
School: Brigidine College
Suburb: St Ives
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Krysia Lee »

Thanks Rosalie, I was in a hurry so popped it in the microwave for 40 seconds, worked well.
Jen2
Posts: 23
Joined: 01 May 2012, 09:48
State/Location: WA

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Jen2 »

So is the reaction heaps better???
We always heat our diet coke when doing the mentos demo to get a higher fountain, but I never thought of heating the H2O2 for elephants toothpaste. We always get such a huge amount of foam, I'm a bit scared to think how much would come shooting out if the reaction was sped up.
Would love to know the comparison of hot and cold H2O2.
User avatar
Ocker
Posts: 911
Joined: 01 Jun 2006, 10:00
Job Title: Lab attendant
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Ocker »

I would think as you heated peroxide it would give off it's extra O becoming warm water
That's why I store my H2O2 in fridge
User avatar
Graham Kemp
Posts: 173
Joined: 22 Nov 2011, 09:21
Job Title: Laboratory Assistant
School: St John's School
Suburb: Roma
State/Location: QLD

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Graham Kemp »

Ocker wrote:I would think as you heated peroxide it would give off it's extra O becoming warm water
That's why I store my H2O2 in fridge
It decomposes into water and oxygen gas at above 80°C; or earlier in the presence of catalists: metals, acids, oxidisable organic materials, etc.

Heating is rather contraindicated.
RosalieM
Posts: 1795
Joined: 20 Mar 2007, 10:00
Job Title: Lab Assistant
Suburb: Tamworth
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by RosalieM »

It's only heated immediately before the experiment. I usually have a second bottle that I only put as much as I want to use in to heat it. I keep the rest in the fridge.
User avatar
smiley
Posts: 1398
Joined: 20 Nov 2006, 10:00
State/Location: QLD

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by smiley »

I heat it up to varying temps. Too hot and it just explodes in one big whoosh with not enough bubbles. Impressive, and made a cool iodine stain on the ceiling. :cheesy: So yes, we played one year with some Senior Chem kids and found optimum temps and dilutions. 50% carpet cleaning super dooper H2O2 is crazy, but fun! :crazy:
Cheers, K 8-)
User avatar
Krysia Lee
Posts: 228
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 10:40
Job Title: Labbie
School: Brigidine College
Suburb: St Ives
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Krysia Lee »

So I did heat it gently in the microwave for only 30 seconds and it was 56 degrees when I got it out.There really wasn't much of a difference between the hot and cold. The cold one as expected kept producing foam longer. We did this a rate of reaction prac where the variable was temperature so we got the result we wanted. The kids really liked it.
User avatar
Ocker
Posts: 911
Joined: 01 Jun 2006, 10:00
Job Title: Lab attendant
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Ocker »

My kids do their own prac while soil testing they allow the end of the dropper to touch the soil than screw the dropper back on the bottle
Next morning I find all the dropper teat are blown up like a balloon or burst
Beautiful children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RosalieM
Posts: 1795
Joined: 20 Mar 2007, 10:00
Job Title: Lab Assistant
Suburb: Tamworth
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by RosalieM »

why do they use it for soils?
User avatar
Ocker
Posts: 911
Joined: 01 Jun 2006, 10:00
Job Title: Lab attendant
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Ocker »

Test for organic matter!
RosalieM
Posts: 1795
Joined: 20 Mar 2007, 10:00
Job Title: Lab Assistant
Suburb: Tamworth
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by RosalieM »

oh really? we don't do that here. What's the story? If it bubbles there is organic matter?
User avatar
Ocker
Posts: 911
Joined: 01 Jun 2006, 10:00
Job Title: Lab attendant
State/Location: NSW

Re: Hydrogen Peroxide

Post by Ocker »

right
Post Reply